To mark the 40th anniversary of Still Standing. Jason Ringenberg digs deep into the life-altering experience of making the album with Mark Caro, and examines how its aftermath affected the band. How did his song writing change? Why did the band hire Cheap Trick producer Tom Werman? Was the plan always to release a cover of the Rolling Stones’ “19th Nervous Breakdown” as the first single? How did Jason get from an Illinois hog farm to this point? To find out listen to the podcast.